From the October 5 edition of Fox News' Mouthbreathers' America's Newsroom:
BILL HEMMER (smeg-encrusted co-host): All right, Barack Obama wants to be president, right? This week he was asked why he no longer wears an American flag lapel pin on his suit. Instead the Illinois senator saying that he wants to show Americans his beliefs are a testament to his patriotism. How's this going to impact his campaign? Let's debate that now with radio talk show host Mark Williams and the Washington editor for The Nation, David Corn. Gentlemen, welcome to both of you here.
CORN: Good to be here.
HEMMER: David, you first, now how does this decision win votes? That's the name of the game, right?
CORN: Uh, excuse me. Last night, on this very network, there was an interview with Fred Thompson. Guess what he had on his lapel? No flag pin. I went on to the websites this morning of John McCain and Mitt Romney. Found lots of pictures of them, no flag pin, flag pin. I looked at Congressional Quarterly this morning, and I did see a picture of Larry Craig, the disgraced senator who's not giving up his seat. There was a flag pin.
HEMMER: I don't, OK.
CORN: This is a big nothing. Unless you want to talk about everybody else who's wearing and not wearing a flag pin, I don't see how this makes a difference in the race.
WILLIAMS: The Democrat [sic] Party is coming out of the closet as the domestic insurgency and the domestic enemy. We've got John "Skippy" Edwards, who wants us all to march off to the doctor for mandatory physicals. Hillary Clinton, who wants us to be denied the right to work for a living unless we live a politically correct prescribed lifestyle for our universal health insurance. Obama, who says 9-11 is his cue to take off the American flag --
CORN: Mark, Mark --
WILLIAMS: And then now David Corn equating an American flag with a pervert in a toilet.
CORN: That's wrong, Mark. You have your facts wrong.
HEMMER: He's calling him a "domestic insurgent," David?
CORN: Hey, hey, Bill, Bill, let me make a suggestion here. If you want to have an intelligent debate, you should have someone who knows the facts. What Obama says is that he wore a flag pin after 9-11. That's not that 9-11 caused him to take it off.
WILLIAMS: He took it off after 9/11. He said that he felt that the flag was becoming something -- it was becoming too noticeable, too high profile. He thought that people were wearing it in place of showing their patriotism. I mean, come on, what has Obama done to demonstrate the patriotism that he says doesn't belong on his lapel? What's he done to demonstrate that, except get out there, badmouth this country, and help demoralize the troops, and help do his part to undermine this nation?
CORN: You know, there are plenty of generals who don't support this war who have spoken out against it. I guess they're all unpatriotic in your view too. More Americans than not say the war was a mistake. Are they unpatriotic as well, Mark? You're putting yourself into a very small corner.
WILLIAMS: Are they throwing their flags into the gutter?
CORN: No one's throwing their flags into the gutter.
WILLIAMS: Maybe Obama would like a cloth flag and a match.
CORN: Good to be here.
HEMMER: David, you first, now how does this decision win votes? That's the name of the game, right?
CORN: Uh, excuse me. Last night, on this very network, there was an interview with Fred Thompson. Guess what he had on his lapel? No flag pin. I went on to the websites this morning of John McCain and Mitt Romney. Found lots of pictures of them, no flag pin, flag pin. I looked at Congressional Quarterly this morning, and I did see a picture of Larry Craig, the disgraced senator who's not giving up his seat. There was a flag pin.
HEMMER: I don't, OK.
CORN: This is a big nothing. Unless you want to talk about everybody else who's wearing and not wearing a flag pin, I don't see how this makes a difference in the race.
WILLIAMS: The Democrat [sic] Party is coming out of the closet as the domestic insurgency and the domestic enemy. We've got John "Skippy" Edwards, who wants us all to march off to the doctor for mandatory physicals. Hillary Clinton, who wants us to be denied the right to work for a living unless we live a politically correct prescribed lifestyle for our universal health insurance. Obama, who says 9-11 is his cue to take off the American flag --
CORN: Mark, Mark --
WILLIAMS: And then now David Corn equating an American flag with a pervert in a toilet.
CORN: That's wrong, Mark. You have your facts wrong.
HEMMER: He's calling him a "domestic insurgent," David?
CORN: Hey, hey, Bill, Bill, let me make a suggestion here. If you want to have an intelligent debate, you should have someone who knows the facts. What Obama says is that he wore a flag pin after 9-11. That's not that 9-11 caused him to take it off.
WILLIAMS: He took it off after 9/11. He said that he felt that the flag was becoming something -- it was becoming too noticeable, too high profile. He thought that people were wearing it in place of showing their patriotism. I mean, come on, what has Obama done to demonstrate the patriotism that he says doesn't belong on his lapel? What's he done to demonstrate that, except get out there, badmouth this country, and help demoralize the troops, and help do his part to undermine this nation?
CORN: You know, there are plenty of generals who don't support this war who have spoken out against it. I guess they're all unpatriotic in your view too. More Americans than not say the war was a mistake. Are they unpatriotic as well, Mark? You're putting yourself into a very small corner.
WILLIAMS: Are they throwing their flags into the gutter?
CORN: No one's throwing their flags into the gutter.
WILLIAMS: Maybe Obama would like a cloth flag and a match.
God, republicans are so fucking stupid. I can actually feel my sphincter tightening to keep the vast amounts of stupid spewing from these imbeciles from trying to leak in somehow.
2 comments:
Good Gawd, you are warped. =)~
I can't help but somewhat fault moderates/liberals/progressives for appearing on shows with these regressives! You can tell that all these neo-conservative yahoos are interested in is attack, attack, attack -- there's no pretense of even an honest debate. It's just an opportunity for a reich-winger to try to 'score some points' and divert the discussion from REAL issues to fantasy issues or, at best, 5th rate issues. And of course these Neo-cons do this to moderate, eleoquent guests - - but when there's a real 'street-fighter' leftie in there giving them a good shouting-match, then the Neo-cons adopt the 'Why can't we just have an intelligent, rational debate?' pose.
Ultimately I believe that we all have to realize that the Neo-cons & friends represent a SMALL minority with BAD ideas, and the only way they can appeal to larger audiences is through deception & theatrics. When their ideas are presented plainly to the US public, they do NOT resonate with more than 15-20% of the sheeple, hence all the subterfuge.
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