“Joe” the Gun-Totin’ Moron uses his hard-fought Constitutional rights to be a douchebag and brings a ‘goddamn gun’ to Prez Obama’s town hall event. He gets awarded for his douchebaggery by getting asked to appear on Hardball with uberditz Chris Matthews. Fark posters join me in feeling disgust over the entire incident:
[C]ommon sense HAS to come into play at some point. He has the right to bring his gun places, but he has the responsibility to not be a dumbass about it.
[I]f he chooses to be an Attention Whore of the first magnitude at a Presidential event, he also chooses to get his entire life looked at by the Secret Service.
If someone mentioned the word ‘gun’ at a Bush event they would have been tackled and dragged into a waiting limo. This guy is not exercising his 2nd Amendment Rights. He is exercising his rights to be an attention-whoring asshat. He has the right to walk down the streets of Harlem dressed in the sandwich board John McClane wore in Die Hard With a Vengeance as well. Some things you just don't freaking do.
The Secret Service should have exercised their rights to thoroughly interrogate, strip and cavity search this cocksucker, all the while making sure he had his gun returned to him. Their job is to investigate all threats and secure the president. They would have been fully within their rights to do all of that.
Just because you have the right to carry a concealed weapon does NOT mean you have the right to carry it everywhere. Wanna try? Pull that stunt on board an airplane... see if your "Second Amendment right" works there.
Amen.
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Rock on, maru, that was truly the shit.
Crux of the biscuit shit.
The crux is...the best part of the biscuit?
Why was this such a big deal. You've got a law abiding citizen exercising his rights. Just substitute speaking or having a lawful protest or reading the bible (or not). It's a well known fact that in areas with open carry or concealed carry there's less crime. I'm no crazy conservative, more of a libertarian. Very left on many issues but very right on others. I enjoy finding the common ground with people, unfortunately I can't find any on this one. The guy hurt no one.
No, but if it had happened at a Bush/Cheney event, he would've been slammed to the ground, carted off by the SS in cuffs, and been hounded to the ends of the Earth by the rightwingnut media machine.
It's a well known fact that in areas with open carry or concealed carry there's less crime.
Actually, it's not a fact. The best that can be shown-- unless we're talking about that idiot John Lott's widely discredited work-- is that there is not more crime as a result, but neither has it been conclusively shown that there is less.
Further, accidental shootings are not part of these statistics, since they are not crimes, but they are shootings nevertheless, in which somebody got hurt and wouldn't have been but for the handguns that facilitated them, whether permitted or not.
Despite Heinlein Libertarians' belief that an armed society is a polite society, this obviously isn't the case either-- witness the deeply abiding loutishness of Kostric himself carrying a gun and a sign referencing Jefferson's quote about refreshing the tree of liberty with blood to a Presidential appearance.
Which of course necessitated constant surveillance by local and federal law enforcement to insure that he never got anywhere near the President. The only impression he made was to reveal himself as a loose cannon with a inarticulated complaint of disenfranchisement, fed a fact-free diet of Limbaughs, Becks, and whoever else feeds him his crazy.
Christ. Any resonances here for you?
All right, here's the answer, quiz kid: Tim McVeigh was wearing a t-shirt with the full Jefferson quotation on it when arrested. So forgive me, you dope, if I don't agree that this was not a big deal.
And for God's sake, stop reading and repeating bullshit here. The nerve.
Gun? You couldn't wear an antiwar t-shirt within a mile of George Wanker Bush. The Secret Service has plenty of reason to worry, as rightwing nuts have murdered a doctor, a museum guard, three Pittsburgh police officers and several women in a health club so far this year. Polite society my limbaugh.
Just substitute speaking or having a lawful protest or reading the bible (or not).
I'll tell ya something else for nothing, Sonny: Speaking, Protesting, and Bible Beating, though each irritating in their own way, never killed anyone, nor were they meant to.
A gun is designed for no other purpose, and don't you forget it.
Designed for no other purpose--than what, to fire a projectile at an under extreme velocity until such velocity slows and stops? If you equate that with "purpose to kill", then any moving object has the potential to do so. Therefore, the risk of being killed by a moving object would be rationally so great that one should remove oneself from the equation entirely and cease to exist. By doing so, the chance of being killed by anything other than ones own desire would be reduced to zero. But since ones own desires cannot exist either due to the fact that they have a potential to conflict with the interests of the common good, then only one rational thing can come from this. People therefore must be allowed to live their lives as they see fit as long as it does not interfere with the same for anyone else.
But the lack of control that this means delivers is so scary to you, isn't it? Not being able try to take away the possibility to do harm? "If we only could trim the fat from the constitution, then these nutjobs would not be able to tote guns near the president". How often has the law against kidnapping forced people to not kidnap? It has not been effective at all. Kidnapping has not been prevented. Is it not a blanket statement that kidnapping is morally and legally wrong? If you say it isn't, then who deserves to be kidnapped? Your loved ones or friends? When someone goes into a public place filled with people, if he does not carry a "physical weapon" does that deem him unable to inflict harm? GWB and O are just runners in the relay of the perpetual problem. Neither one is any different than the other. The system needs to be brought back under control by the people, not made worse by our complacency and blind trust.
Oh, and by the way, the pen is mightier than the sword.
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